Trailer: Torn Between

Trailer | 2 Minutes | Aug 7, 2025

A series about the fears and questions that come with moving abroad.

You feel called to cross-cultural work, and you are actually considering committing to it. But alongside that calling is a wave of uncertainty:


How will I make money? What do I do about my relationship? How is my family going to respond to this?

What if I don’t feel ready? What if I never feel ready?

Torn Between is a mini-series created for people who want to move abroad for cross-cultural work but feel stuck in the tension of fear, uncertainty, and desire.

This isn’t a podcast full of answers. It’s a space to name the doubts and fears you’ve been carrying and realize you’re not the only one. Because the path to serving isn’t always clear—and that’s not a disqualifier. It’s a starting point.

Hosted by Mark and Carley who help others take the leap abroad—and Michael who’s standing on the edge himself. These are honest, personal conversations with no easy answers-just good questions and a few next steps forward.


  • Michael is a storyteller, creative, and missions advocate who brings honesty and vulnerability to every conversation. As someone navigating his own calling and relationship questions, he represents the heart of the Torn Between audience—asking the questions many are afraid to voice out loud.

    Mark has spent years walking with people discerning cross-cultural work. With a calming presence and deep well of experience, he offers wisdom, perspective, and a gentle challenge to trust God through uncertainty and transition.

    Carly brings warmth, insight, and lived experience to the table. Having served overseas herself and now guiding others on their journey, she speaks with compassion about the real tensions people face and helps ground big decisions in trust and grace.

  • Okay, you’re graduating or maybe you already did. And now you’re staying down a question that’s way bigger than you’re integrating, which is What the heck am I actually supposed to do with my life? It’s a fun place to be in, but all the opportunities can feel super overwhelming. At least If you’re somebody that feels this, but one of the things you’re pulled towards is cross-cultural work. Living abroad doing something good then we made a podcast for you. Torn Between is a podcast by one collective for anyone that wants to do cross-school work abroad, but feels stuck in the tension of fear, uncertainty, and desire. This podcast is hosted by Mark and Carly. Here’s Carly. Carly, say hello. Hey Carly, and then also hosted by Mark. This is our other podcast host, Mark. Say hello. They are super wise people. Their full-time job is related just to help people move abroad and overcome fears and doubts that are holding their lives. And lastly, I will be the other host. But not as a guide, but instead as somebody that is considering what it’s like to move abroad for cross-cultural work. These are raw and personal conversations. There are no answers in this podcast, but a lot of good questions, good conversation, and maybe a few steps forward that you can relate with. So if you’re stuck in the feeling of how do I actually commit to moving abroad for cross-cultural work, this podcast is for you and I hope you enjoy us as we explore a bunch of the different fears and big questions that keep people from following their calling.

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